Wednesday, October 23, 2024
Our Genealogy/History: Those Men We Lost and the Wars Going On When They Left Us
Nadene Goldfoot
I've been curious about the immediate history before and after our ancestors. Here's some of the highlights I found.1. Descendants of Nathan "Nokhim Avram"Abraham" Goldfus Goldfoot
1 [1] Nathan "Nokhim Avram"Abraham" Goldfus Goldfoot b: 1869 in Russia, Telsai, Lithuania d: July 19, 1912 in Portland, Oregon Immigration: June 14, 1893 22, arrived :single: heading for Winnipeg, Canada, Nathan Goldfort age 22, arriving in Quebec on ship Parisian. Age at death: 43 est. Age at death: 43 est. Cause of death: An accident. He had a horse and wagon. The horse bolted, and he was killed. Age at first Marriage: 24 est. Burial: July 21, 1912 Shaarie Torah Cemetery, Portland, OR, Block W Section B Plot 2. Before he was born:
A sudden decision in 1864 for finally abolishing serfdom in Poland happened. The ensuing breakup of estates and destitution of many peasants convinced educated Poles to turn instead to the idea of "organic work", economic and cultural self-improvement. This probably affected Lithuania as well. The Goldfus family go back in Lithuania to Iones (Jonah) of about 1730. Before that It might have been Poland/Russia. The family could have lived through this breakup of Polish estates and destitution and had then moved to Lithuania. In 1868–1869, hundreds of Lithuanian Jews crossed into Russia to seek help from Jewish communities in East Prussia after a hunger crisis. The crisis was a turning point for Jewish community leaders in Central and Western Europe, who realized that Jewish migration would become a major issue.
Cause of death: An accident. He had a horse and wagon. The horse bolted, and he was killed.
German soldier of 1912 in BalkansWar: July 1912: Balkan Wars, (1912–13), two successive military conflicts that deprived the Ottoman Empire of all its remaining territory in Europe except part of Thrace and the city of Adrianople (Edirne). The second conflict erupted when the Balkan allies Serbia, Greece, and Bulgaria quarreled over the partitioning of their conquests. The result was a resumption of hostilities in 1913 between Bulgaria on the one hand and Serbia and Greece, which were joined by Romania, on the other. Though there were wars going on, none affected Nathan from leaving Lithuania.
However, shortly after Nathan's death, By late 1915 Lithuania had come under German military occupation. The goal of the German administration was to create a Lithuanian state that would be a satellite of Germany after the final peace treaty. It authorized a gathering in Vilnius, on Sept. 18–22, 1917, of a congress of 214 Lithuanian delegates. The gathering called for an independent Lithuanian state within ethnic frontiers with Vilnius as its capital, and it elected a 20-member Taryba, or council. On Feb. 16, 1918, the Taryba proclaimed an independent Lithuanian state.
. +Lena Lina Goldberg b: Abt. 1904 in Prob. Russia or Dublin, Ireland m: February 21, 1893 in Dublin South, Ireland Immigration: 1894 Spinster, age 32, on ship, Mongolian from Londonderry, Ireland to Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada m: February 21, 1893 in Dublin South, Ireland Age at first Marriage: -11 est.
*2nd Wife of [1] Nathan "Nokhim Avram"Abraham" Goldfus Goldfoot:
. +Zlata "Hattie",Addie, Ettie" Jermulowski b: January 11, 1884 in Lazdijai, Suwalki, Lithuania d: December 09, 1950 in Portland, Oregon m: November 20, 1905 in Boise, Idaho/Council, Washington County, Idaho Immigration: 1900 1910 census in Portland Addie Citizenship: 1920 pa: filed first paper, dec. of intent Age at death: 66 m: November 20, 1905 in Boise, Idaho/Council, Washington County, Idaho Age at death: 66 Cause of death: Cerebral hemorrhage due to hypertension, anterosclerosis. Age at first Marriage: 21 Burial: December 09, 1950 Shaarie Torah Cemetery, Portland, OR. Block W Section C Plot 2 Cause of death: Cerebral hemorrhage due to hypertension, anterosclerosis.
2. Descendants of Nathan Bernard Goldfoot
Charles Goldfoot
Descendants of Charles C. "Haskel" Goldfoot; Before Charlie was born on May 28, 1906, nine miles east of Potlatch, an area was platted and named as the Harvard Railroad Station for the new Washington, Idaho & Montana Railroad.
1 [1] Charles C. "Haskel" Goldfoot b: September 22, 1906 in Council, Adams, Washington County, Idaho d: December 17, 1949 in Grand Coulee, Grant Co. Washington age 43 Citizenship: 1930 Republican Age at death: 43 Age at death: 43 Cause of death: Smoking caused coughing, and death. Burial: Abt. December 18, 1949 Mount Nebo, Spokane, Spokane County, Washington T25N R42E Sec 14 Cause of death: Smoking caused coughing, and death.
. +Rose Luria "Halperin" b: 1895 in New York d: 1978 m: in Connection to Halpern, DNA, she could be connection Age at death: 83 est. m: in Connection to Halpern, DNA, she could be connection Age at death: 83 est.
*1st Wife of [1] Charles C. "Haskel" Goldfoot:
. +Helen Hochfeld b: June 06, 1909 in Spokane City, Spokane, Washington d: July 09, 1991 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon m: July 14, 1929 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Age at death: 82 m: July 14, 1929 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Age at death: 82 Age at first Marriage: 20 Burial: July 16, 1991 Cremation, Willamette Cemetery, Portland, Sect L, Site 1599
US Army in Korea in 1949Nathan Bernard Goldfoot and Lorraine Slifman nee Goldfoot
1 2.1 Nathan Bernard Goldfoot, pvt. 1st class, b: February 25, 1934 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon: In February 1934, Portland, Oregon was involved in the 1934 West Coast waterfront strike, a nearly three-month walkout by longshoremen that crippled maritime shipping: The Austrian civil war of February 1934, which marked the first mass European working class resistance to fascism, and drove the strongest social democratic labor movement into illegality and exile, was the subject of two important conferences in Cambridge, Mass, and Vienna.
. +LORRAINE (Leah) Devorah Slifman b: July 01, 1940 in Portland, Oregon m: May 28, 1967 in Portland, Oregon m: May 28, 1967 in Portland,
Oregon US Army Chief of Staff
- 1908 – Reed College founded.
DAVID GOLDFOOT
David Alan Goldfoot z”l passed away in Austin, Texas Oct. 8, 2023, at the age of 81. Born in Portland, Ore., on August 2, 1942, to Maurice and Mildred Goldfoot, David grew up with his older sister, Nadene, in a multicultural community. All who knew him described David as brilliant, kind, fun loving, creative, and a wonderful friend. At just ten years old he became the first Jewish child to be named Prime Minister of Portland’s Junior Rose Festival. In 2003, his lasting influence on his community was honored when he was knighted as Sir David Goldfoot of Rosaria. In 1964 he graduated from Reed College and married Heather Birnie, also from Portland. David later graduated from OHSU with a Ph.D. in Medical Psychology. He was a widely respected psychologist who specialized in working with individuals with anger problems and sexual addictions. David will be remembered by his loving wife, Lorraine Broll, sons Joel (Jill Jodar) and Josh (Matthew Berry), daughter, Michelle, sister, Nadene Goldfoot, and his beloved poodle, Roxy. He was a devoted father who taught his children to love learning and to treat all people equally. As a partner, he was beyond compare supportive, kind, patient, and thoughtful. There will be a celebration of David’s life later this fall in Austin. In lieu of flowers, contributions in David’s memory may be made to Cancer Research Institute (www. cancerresearch.org).
4. Descendants of Albert Donald Eichman, Sgt., son of Elsie Eichman nee Goldfoot
1 [1] Elsie Goldfoot b: March 10, 1911 in Portland, Oregon: d: June 08, 1986 in Portland, Oregon Age at death: 75 Age at death: 75 Cause of death: Stroke, Age at first Marriage: 22 Burial: June 09, 1986 Shaarie Torah Cemetery, Portland, OR, Block E Section G Plot 2 Cause of death: Stroke,
. +Albert A. Eichman, Sgt b: April 25, 1910 in Portland, Oregon d: June 28, 1977 in Sherman Oaks, Los Angeles, California m: February 03, 1934 in Vancouver, Clark County, Washington Age at death: 67 m: February 03, 1934 in Vancouver, Clark County, Washington Age at death: 67 Age at first Marriage: 23 Burial: July 22, 1977 Willamette National Cemetery Section 0 Site 0 2416
*2nd Husband of [1] Elsie Goldfoot:
. +Mickey Archie Henry Freedman b: September 26, 1905 in Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts d: January 09, 1994 in Dundee, Yamhill, Oregon m: March 1945 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Citizenship: September 24, 1928 Republican, Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Age at death: 88 m: March 1945 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Age at death: 88 Age at first Marriage: 22 Burial: Ahavai Shalom Cemetery, Sec 103,Plot 5 Portland, OR
1 [1] Albert Donald Eichman, Sgt. 4 yrs reserve, at Fort Ord, b: November 19, 1937 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon: On November 5, 1937, Adolf Hitler and his military and foreign policy leadership met in Berlin to discuss his expansionist policies. Colonel Friedrich Hossbach took notes at the meeting, which became known as the Hossbach Memorandum. The memorandum is considered early evidence of Hitler's aggressive foreign policy and a cause of World War I; Also, President Franklin D. Roosevelt proclaimed Thursday, November 25, 1937 as a national day of thanksgiving.
d: October 15, 2024 in Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon Age at death: 86 Age at death: 86 Age at first Marriage: 25 Burial: Shaari Torah Cemetary
. +Nancy Karin Hulse b: January 13, 1940 in Speedway, Marion, Indiana m: September 08, 1963 in Oregon City, Clackamas, Oregon m: September 08, 1963 in Oregon City, Clackamas, Oregon
*Friend of [1] Albert Donald Eichman,Sgt.:
. +Sharon Palmer b: Abt. 1940 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon F 2020 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon F 2020 in Portland, Multnomah, Oregon Age at first Meeting: 80 est. Don was in charge of all hospitals in Oregon except in Multnomah County, and worked on their finance conditions, keeping them in the black and not in the red.
War of October 2024 : Continuation and growth of Israel/Hezbollah War in Lebanon
Don's family of Eichmans came from Chelm, Poland. "The town was the capital of a historical region of the Land of Chelm, administratively a part of the Ruthenian Voivodeship in the Lesser Poland Province of the Polish Crown. The city prospered in the 15th and 16th centuries. It was then that The Golem of Chelm by Rabbi Elijah Ba'al Shem of Chelm became famous, but the city declined in the 17th century due to the wars which ravaged Poland. In the 18th century, the situation in eastern Poland stabilized and the town started to slowly recover from the damages suffered during the Swedish Deluge and the Khmelnytsky uprising. It attracted a number of new settlers from all parts of Poland, including people of Catholic, Orthodox, and Jewish faiths. In 1794, the Chelm Voivodeship was established. Chelm was one of the first towns to join the Kosciuszko's Uprising later that year. In the Battle of Chelm of 8 June 1794, the forces of Gen. Józef Zajaczek were defeated by the Russians under Valerian Zubov and Boris Lacy, the town was yet again sacked by the invading armies. The following year, as a result of the Third Partition of Poland, the town was annexed by Austria. Lubin, Poland was also a city his Eichman ancestors lived in. The Lublin Ghetto was a World War II ghetto created by Nazi Germany in the city of Lublin on the territory of General Government in occupied Poland.[1] The ghetto inmates were mostly Polish Jews, although a number of Roma were also brought in.[2] Set up in March 1941, the Lublin Ghetto was one of the first Nazi-era ghettos slated for liquidation during the most deadly phase of the Holocaust in occupied Poland.[3] Between mid-March and mid-April 1942 over 30,000 Jews were delivered to their deaths in cattle trucks at the Belzec extermination camp and additional 4,000 at Majdanek.[1][4]
I have to include this one. I just found it. It's another Albert Eichman but with 2ns.
Albert Eichmann, age 88, passed away peacefully surrounded by his wife and daughter on Sunday, April 21, 2024, at Froedtert Family Memorial Hospital in Manitowoc. He was born on April 20, 1936, in Poland to the late Wilhelm and Emilie (Tober) Eichmann. In 1955, Albert and his brothers immigrated to the United States, settling
in Sheboygan with their aunt and uncle, Augusta and Edward Lungwitz. Albert
proudly served in the United States Army from 1960 until 1966. He was stationed in
Germany where he was reunited with his childhood friend and future wife, Ingrid
Semrau. (So similar to Donnie whose first name was Albert like his father. )
Labels: A.Donald Eichman, David Goldfoot, Maurice Goldfoot, Nathan Abraham Goldfoot, Nathan Bernard Goldfoot
Monday, May 29, 2023
The Cunundrum of Our Goldfoot Line: DNA Between QBZ67 and Q-M378--3rd Cousins
Nadene Goldfoot
Dad, known in South Portland boxing circles as Billy Meshke, AKA Morris Goldfoot, son of Nathan Abraham Goldfoot, below: Nathan Abraham Goldfus b: 1871-d: 1912My brother was tested with the Big Y haplogroup test offered by Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) and it is QBZ67. Earlier before the Big Y test, David was listed as a Q-M242, and Q-Y2200 I have traced the Goldfoot line through David to our father, Moshe Goldfoot/Morris Goldfoot/Maurice Goldfoot to our grandfather, Nathan Abraham Goldfoot/Goldfus (Nathan "Nokhim Avram"Abraham" Goldfus Goldfoot) to Telsiai, Lithuania who had immigrated to England, then Dublin, Ireland where he lived with other Goldfoots. He even married briefly and then somehow got to Council, Idaho and married our grandmother (Bubbie) Zlata Jermulowski/sky. We knew our grandfather only as Nathan Goldfoot. I was not aware of any middle name until I did genealogy searches, or where he was born. Census only said "Russia."
One thing I can be sure is that the whole line of Goldfus that I found were from Telsiai going back to about 1730, and that there were many on our tree.
The problem is that I do not have paper evidence as to Nathan's parents. I chose Movsha ben Josel (John) Goldfus born 1836 in Telsiai, Lithuania from others because of the first name which was probably Moshe as my father's was on his birth certificate. Otherwise, I might not have realized that his name of Morris was the chosen anglicized form for Moshe (Moses). The Jewish custom was to name after the deceased. Movsha of Telsiai (Telz) was a distiller. (a person or company that manufactures liquor."barrels that the master distiller deems to be of superior quality").
Ian was in track and field at the university in Austin, Texas. He was a fast runner. Nov 4, 1934-Feb 9, 2022.Then I was found by Ian Goldfoot who had moved to the States from South Africa. We talked and realized at once that we were of the same Goldfoot line. Ian tested his haplogroup DNA and was an Q-M378, a little different from my brother's Q-M242.
The direct lines of both Nathan Abraham Goldfoot, my grandfather, and Ian Goldfoot and to his half-sister, Denise, my contemporary-born in 1934, and my 3rd cousin, is as follows:
Me: Nadene Goldfoot b: 1934 Portland, OR; f: Moshe,Maurice Goldfoot b: 1908 Portland; to Nathan Abraham Goldfus b: 1871 Telsiai, Lithuania to Movsha Goldfus b: 1836, to Iosel Josel Symka ben Yankel Goldfus b: 1798, to Iankel Yankel ben Abram Goldfus b: 1768-1774
Ian: Ian Goldfoot b: 1934 Krugerdorp, South Africa, f: Solomon Shlomo Solly Goldfoot b: 1904, Dublin, Ireland; Hyman Haim Goldfus Goldfoot b: 1867 Telsiai, to Avraham Haim Goldfus b: 1825 Telsiai, to Iankel Yankel ben Abram Goldfus b: 1768-1774
Therefore, as far as I can tell, Ian and my connection goes back to 1768 in Telsiai,Lithuania to Iankel or Yankel ben Abram Goldfus and his wife, Khana. Ian is 3rd cousin to my brother and myself and to my contemporary 1st cousins from my father's family.
1. IANKEL YANKEL BEN ABRAM6 GOLDFUS (ABRAM5, IONES JONAH4, UNKNOWN DNA MATCHING3, JACOB2, SALTMAN1 KALONYMUS, DARSHAN, JAFFE) was born Bet. 1768 - 1774 in Telsai, Telsiai, Kaunas, Lithuania, and died December 06, 1860 in Telsliai, Telsiai, Kaunas, Lithuania. He married (2) KHANA UNKNOWN Abt. 1800. She was born Abt. 1778 in Telsiai, Telsiai, Kaunas, Lithuania.
Notes for IANKEL YANKEL BEN ABRAM GOLDFUS:
3/9/08 I found a Rachel Clare Goldfoot b: 4 Feb 1906 and died Oct 1986 in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire at age 80. She may have been a widow of a Goldfoot, I don't know.
I found and met Stanley Goldfoot in Jerusalem. He is my 3rd cousin. Stanley was a contemporary of my mother. Stanley was born in 1914 in South Africa. His father was Simon Goldfoot b: 1874 in Telsiai, Lithuania, and grandfather was SOLOMON-Shlomo Zalman Goldfus/ Goldfoot b: 1848-1849. then his father was Avrohom Abraham Haim Goldfus b: 1825 in Telsiai, making Stanley and Ian related through Abraham Haim Goldfus as 2nd cousins.
Stanley and Helen, his 2nd wife, living at Dor v'Dor Street in Jerusalem. (Stanley-May 2, 1914-Nov 24, 2006)Stanley was the Chief of Intelligence for the Stern Group, called the Stern Gang by the British who were holding the 30 year mandate of Palestine. He had immigrated to Palestine at age 18 right out of high school in Houghton, Johannesburg, South Africa. Meeting him in Jerusalem at the King David Hotel was a thrill ! We met several times after that at his home.
3/11/08 Oral history from Stanley Goldfoot and Denise's father, Solomon Goldfoot, was that they were descendants of Vilna Gaon, who was Elijah Ben Solomon Zalman. 1720-1797. Talmudist.
About the Vilna Gaon, very famous Rabbi: leaves about 20,000 descendants as of 1975 starting from the birth year of 1750 starting with the children of thee Vilna Gaon of 8 children. p. 8.He was born in Lithuania and was early famed for his scholarship. From 1740-1745 he traveled among the Jewish
communities of Poland and Germany, settling in Vilna where he taught and later
founded his own academy. He lived in
seclusion and refused rabbinic office.
He was called a saint and a scholar.
He led the opposition to the Hasidim in Lithuania, ordering their
excommunication and the destruction of their literature. His obdurate attitude checked the spread of
Hasidism in Lithuania. When he was about
60, he set out unaccompanied for Palestine but returned before reading it. His reputation lies primarily in the field of
halakhah. He sought to establish
critical texts of the authoritative rabbinic writings, resorting also to
emendations. He avoided pilpul and based
his views and rulings upon the plain meaning of the text. He regarded highly the early kabbalistic works,
and was extremely critical of philosophy.
He was interested in secular studies insofar as they threw light on the
Torah, but he opposed the Haskalah. His
works include commentaries on the Bible, annotations on the Talmud, Midrash,
and Zohar, works on mathematics, the geography of Palestine, Hebrew grammar,
etc. He exercised a vast influence on
his own and succeeding generations, the Mitnaggedim regarding him as their
spiritual leader.
from Geni: Dear Ezra,
Looking at your tree it appears that someone has given your patriline the identification of: Haplogroup Q-M242 / Q-Y2754 Y-DNA (in the about section of your father's profile and in the pedigree up to Moshe (Movsha) Magid). Do you know how this Q-M242 identification came to be associated to your pedigree? ( b: 1791 in Vilnius, Lithuania).
From the GENI tree it appears that Moshe Magid is the patriline great grand nephew of HaGRA. If all of this is correct and verifiable then it seems that indeed HaGRA is a Q-M242. Can you please cite the Maciamo Hay paper?
If this above holds true than you yourself may be a patriline relation of HaGRA. Have you done your yDNA testing?
Cordially and Appreciatively,
Adam (when researching about Vilna Gaon)
4/1/15 and 6/17/15, Yankel died at age 92 from old age, on Lithuania death list of LitvakSIG. On Tevet 5. also from Jewishgen through Dennis Khan.
Q-M242 is believed to have arisen around the Altai Mountains area (or South Central Siberia), approximately 17,000 to 31,700 years ago. However, the matter remains unclear due to limited sample sizes and changing definitions of Haplogroup Q: early definitions used a combination of the SNPs M242, P36.2, and MEH2 as defining mutations.
More About IANKEL YANKEL BEN ABRAM GOLDFUS:
Name 2: Iankel Yankel
Goldfus
Name 3: Iankel Yankel
Ben Abram Goldfus
Date born 2: 1768
Date born 3: Bet.
1768 - 1774, Telsiai, Telsiai, Kaunas, Lithuania
Died 2: Tevet 5 6/12/1860
Cause of Death: old
age
Census 1: 1811, age
37 Telsiai
Census 2: August 17,
1816, age 42, Revision, Iankel, Abram, head of household
Census 3: August 17,
1816, Telsiai, Telsiai, Kaunas, Lith. age 42 (Revision List)
Citizenship 1: May
23, 1846, Well-to-do, 8 kopecks, with family, Candle Taxpayers
Citizenship 2: 1855,
Wooden house worth 500 rubles in Kaunas, real estate owners tax,
DNA 1: ca1775-ca1867
DNA 2: 1804, Czarist
law: registration of Jewish births
Occupation: May 23, 1846, Tax & Voters Lists: KRA/1-49/1/1381
More About KHANA UNKNOWN:
Census 1: August 17,
1816, Telsiai, age 40 , wife of Iankel son of Abram, Rvision List
Census 2: August 17, 1816, Revision, Age 40, wife of Iankel
More About IANKEL GOLDFUS and KHANA UNKNOWN:
Marriage: Abt. 1800
To find the connection of a 3rd cousin is quite a feat. However, we Jews make up only 0.02% of the world population, and of the Jewish haplogroups, Qs make up probably about 5% or less of this group as well. We're a rare group ! May we continue somehow! We're going to depend on those who did not change their names and are still Goldfus. It takes a male to keep the surname going.
From What Haplogroup WE Be? from another of my blogs:
Q1b1: 5% of Ashkenazi Jewish men are found to be Q1b, of which is my father’s haplogroup (Q1b1a or Q-L245) and the latest is called Q-Y2200, updated to Q-BZ67. Q originated in Central Asia 15,000 to 20,000 years ago and the men migrated through northern Eurasia into the Americas. Q3 became Native Americans coming from a mutation that happened 8,000 to 12,000 years ago. Q1b’s are from the Altai Mountains in Mongolia, Siberia and parts of Turkey. Khazaria may be the home of Q1b’s, and therefore these men could be part of the Ashina Royal Dynasty. Their common ancestor was a man 1,000 years ago. New Q SNP test results in: Q-L245 is Ashkenazi, Q-Y2780=ca 1400 CE; Q-&Ip1071=ca 700 CE, Q-&Ip1010-11 YP1008=800 CE, Q-&P1009=1400 CE ; ?????
4/21/10: P.S.Now we're not positive if Q1b comes from Khazaria though if I had to bet I'd bet that it is. It hasn't been accepted by the main body of scientists who decide such things. To me it's the most logical place, but we have no actual proof. We need more, perhaps several bodies with teeth that could be tested for the Ydna from Khazaria. Most likely the population of Khazaria was made up of a mixture of people from various haplogroups, but it's the Royal family that we're hoping to turn out to be Q1b's as the Royal family converted to Judaism but did not force their people to convert.Researcher: Prof. Alfred Krupa: " As for my Ashina of Khazaria certification, it has been issued by the largest genetic company IGENEA of Zurich, after agreement from the worlds largest genetic company FTDNA of Houston. Bennett Greenspann has been advised about all elements of formal papers and my own research,and approved such conclusion".
Update: 5/10/2012 Q1b1 is losing out in being considered as coming from the Royal family of Khazaria. DNA expert Rebekah Canada reports that they're thinking maybe G types and R1a1a types more likely candidates.
Double Update: 5/10/2012 from Rebekah Canada:
Updated on SNPs 5/26/16 to Q-BZ67.
Is Q-L245 found in modern Arab populations? Yes
Is Q-L245 found in modern Anatolian populatons? Yes
Is Q-L245 found in modern Iran and Iraq? Yes
Is Q-L245 found from the modern locations of the Ancient city of Ur down to the tip of Saudi Arabia and Oman? Yes
Does that cover the places where ancient Israel, Judah, and Sumaria were? Yes.
Update: 7/7/13: Sorry, I did a tree from the Torah's information and
Update: 5/29/12; The latest news for our group is that our origins
- Q1a2 (L56, M346): found in Kazakhstan, Russia, Armenia and Hungary
- Q1a2a (L53): found among the Mongols
- Q1a2a1 (L54): found in Mesolthic western Russia
- Q1a2a1a (CTS11969)
- Q1a2a1a1 (M3): the main subclade of Native Americans
- Q1a2a1a2 (L804): found in Germany, Scandinavia and Britain
- Q1a2a1a2a (L807): observed in Britain
- Q1a2a1b (Z780): found among Native Americans, notably in Mexico
- Q1a2a1c (L330): the main subclade of the Mongols, also found among the Kazakhs and Uzbeks, as well as in Ukraine, Turkey and Greece (probably Mongolian and Turkic)
- Q1a2b (L940): found in Central Asia, Afghanistan, India, Russia, Georgia, Hungary, Poland and Germany
- Q1a2b1 (L527): found almost exclusively in Scandinavia and places settled by the Vikings
- Q1a2b2 (L938): observed in Anatolia, Lithuania, Britain and Portugal
- Q1a2b2a (L939): observed in Britain
- Q1a2c (M323)
- Q1b (L275): found among the Tatars of Russia, in Central Asia, Afghanistan and Pakistan
- Q1b1 (M378): observed in Kazakhstan, India and Germany
- Q1b1a (L245): found in the Middle East, among the Jews, in Central Europe and in Sicily
- Q1b1a1 (L272.1): found in Sicily (probably Phoenician)
Resource:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_Q-M242
Book: Eliyahu's Branches by Chaim Freedman, the Descendants of the Vilna Gaon and his family, 685 pages, large heavy book, but lists people, not dna.
Labels: dna, ian Goldfoot, Nathan Abraham Goldfoot, South Africa, Stanley Goldfoot, USA, Vilna Gaon genealogy connection, What Haplogroup We Be? Jewish Facts From Portland



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